Prisoner Abuse Revisited - American Empire Posted by Jeff (Tuesday May 04 2004 @ 06:51PM EDT)

Donald Rumsfeld met with reporters to discuss pictures of naked men. Rumsfeld, an outspoken critic of homosexuality, took issue with Iraqi men in simulated sex acts. "The actions of the soldiers in those photographs are totally unacceptable and totally un-American," he told reporters. "I intend to take any and all actions that may be needed." What's more, the pictures demonstrate Iraqi tactics designed to win popular support for their cause. "I'm not in the position to say whether -- there are other allegations of abuse," the defense secretary said, but "that is a pattern and a practice of terrorists to allege that." That's right. Terrorists are instructed to strip themselves naked and simulate homosexual acts so that enemy troops will photograph them and weaken home front support for the war. What's more, a good terrorist will allow himself to be attacked by dogs and sodomized with broomsticks for the good of the cause. Is there any wonder why they're winning hearts on the Arab street? -- source

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By Jeff (Wednesday May 05 2004 @ 07:32AM EDT)

"There are now images of men in the Muslim world looking at these images. On the streets of Cairo, men pore over a newspaper. An icon appears on the front page: a hooded man, in a rug-like poncho, standing with his arms out like Christ, wires attached to the hands. He is faceless. This is now the image of the war. In this country, perhaps it will have some competition from the statue of Saddam Hussein being toppled. Everywhere else, everywhere America is hated (and that's a very large part of this globe), the hooded, wired, faceless man of Abu Ghraib is this war's new mascot." "These photos show us what we may become, as occupation continues, anger and resentment grows and costs spiral. There's nothing surprising in this. These pictures are pictures of colonial behavior, the demeaning of occupied people, the insult to local tradition, the humiliation of the vanquished. They are unexceptional. In different forms, they could be pictures of the Dutch brutalizing the Indonesians; the French brutalizing the Algerians; the Belgians brutalizing the people of the Congo." --Philip Kennicott, Washington Post

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By Cosy G. (Wednesday May 05 2004 @ 09:39PM EDT)

CALLER: It was like a college fraternity prank that stacked up naked men -- RUSH LIMBAUGH: Exactly. Exactly my point! This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation and we're going to ruin people's lives over it and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day. I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You of heard of need to blow some steam off?

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By shrub34 (Thursday May 06 2004 @ 09:12AM EDT) And now I remember why I am scared of my fellow Americans. [ reply | parent ]

By Anonymous (Thursday May 06 2004 @ 09:29AM EDT)

7 confirmed, but maybe as high as a 100 ignorants does not equal 280,000,000 for you underprivilaged math dolts

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By GeoGiant (Thursday May 06 2004 @ 09:43AM EDT) In the same sense, I don’t have to pick up every piece of shit in the yard and smell it before I make the determination that it stinks. [ reply | parent ]

By beakesm3 (Friday May 07 2004 @ 09:43AM EDT)

In the same sense Geo. you don't throw the whole barrel of apples away just because you found one bad one. Geo. as far as you smelling shit in the yard, your analysis is wrong since shit that has been there for a while doesn't smell.

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By GeoGiant (Friday May 07 2004 @ 01:05PM EDT) I do not agree with your analogy. I am not proposing that you throw away the current military, military structure or personnel. I was saying that it would be naive to think that these abuses were the result of a few misguided individuals. BTW – you must leave the shit lay in your yard for a really long time if it doesn’t stink. I am sure your neighbors are thrilled to have you there. [ reply | parent ]

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